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Noah saving HG Tanhauss's family would have been a stronger ending both in terms of theme and character development.

First of all, in the version of the show I'm picturing, it's made explicit that everyone who ceases to exist when the Knot is destroyed gets reincarnated in the Origin universe, and that Charlotte Doppler is Charlotte Tanhauss. Noah isn't Marek though. There can actually be a beat where Noah hopes that he's Marek but then he looks at him and somehow knows that he isn't, but also that he has to do this anyway.


So, from a thematic standpoint, Dark is a story about parental love. The problem is that we never get the impression that Jonas and Martha love their son. Now, this is fine if the point is that by the time Jonas and Martha become Adam and Eve the Knot has stripped away at their humanity, but I just don't buy that Eve was generally motivated to save her son (who she never even names!). If there's ever any sign of affection between them, I certainly don't remember it.

Noah, on the other hand, is motivated entirely by his love for Charlotte (and also Elizabeth). He's devastated when she disappears, and is willing to commit atrocities just for a chance to be able to find her. Martha may understand intellectually that Marek's father would do anything for him, but Noah would understand exactly what the means on a fundamental level. (He'd also be sub-textually saying that line to Charlotte, which if played right could be utterly heartbreaking.)

There's also the matter of the number three as a motif in Dark. In this version, there are three principal parent-child relationships that motivate the big picture events of the story: HG Tanhauss to Marek: the one that got us all into this mess, Claudia to Regina: the one that finds the way out of this mess, and Noah to Charlotte: the one that puts the plan to get us all out of this mess into action. Have the Noah who saves the day be from the Eve timeline and there's even some nice symmetry with the three worlds in the show.


Now, the characterization standpoint. The character arcs of both Jonas and Martha are, depending on the specific version, lose their humanity and become Adam and Eve, die, or sacrifice their existence to save the world. The problem with Jonas especially is that he's already willing to be erased from existence by the end of season 2, and then Martha spends season 3 mostly being a demonstration of the Schrodinger paradox, but then ultimately coming to the same conclusion.

In this version of the story, the central arc is Noah's redemption, as his love for Charlotte goes from a selfish love to a selfless love. In the first season, he's able to kill children remorselessly, even though it causes their parents the same grief that Noah felt when Charlotte was kidnapped, all in the hopes of creating a world where he and his daughter can be together again. By the end of season 3, however, he gives up Charlotte willingly, with the knowledge that this is the only way that she can have a happy life. While there may be a Noah in the final timeline, he's still giving up the thing that matters to him the most: his relationship to the people he loves. At the same time however, the only thing that remains of Knot!Noah is his most redeeming quality, the fact that Charlotte is able to live happily.
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  • The TOL induction ceremony includes the inductee burning themself painfully to symbolize their willingness to go to hell for their beliefs
  • It’s somewhat common for members to change their names to something non-Biblical, although a lot of people also consider this to be A Bit Much when it’s held up as part of the TOL deal. 
    • Picking a name associated with the “opposite gender” is a common way for TOL members to come out as trans
  • Most of the fics I’ve read have the solution be that The Other Lights get a big rocket and leave the planet. There’d be a big show of when the final battle happens all the Other Lights get teleported into the rocket so it looks like they’ve been Raptured without leaving their clothes as a final “fuck you”. 
  • This ending isn’t actually uncomplicatedely happy. Being a member of TOL is absolutely brutal, and there would be people who’d have to be talked down from going back and getting sent to hell because of how messed up they were. There’d be a general feeling that leaving Earth means abandoning all their friends and comrades who’d died and were being tortured for eternity. 
  •  Two people on the rocket are hugging and crying and then someone runs in who's going full Cordo and it's super awkward




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A lot of people have wondered what would happen if someone made a version of We Didn't Start The Fire for the modern day. Since the original took place over 40 years (aka the amount of time Billy Joel had been alive) it only makes sense that we'd start where the original left off. So, let's start in 1990:

 
Vaclav Havel, Morris Worm, Mandela, Voyager
Exxon Valdez, Boris Yeltsin, 'Raq invades Kuwait
Sue the T-Rex, Leonard Bernstein, Sri Lanka, Dead John Heinz
Sacramento, Aung San Suu Kyi, Rostock battles hate
Bill Clinton, CDs, Tim McVeigh, Waco Siege
Bombay, Jurassic Park, 'Maker-Levy leaves a mark
O.J. Simpson, Pixar, Deep Blue is the chess star
Harry Potter, start of Google, terror at Columbine

We didn't start the fire
It's been always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it

Napster downloads, Kosovo, Dreamcast, ExxonMobil
Millennium, no more ibex, DeviantArt
Dubya, Aaliyah, 9/11, [instrumental]
War on Terror, bad times for Kmart
Iraq, 4chan, NASA's Martian rovers land
Ronald Reagan, Michael Phelps, World of Warcraft, Intel
Eris, New Orleans, Brokeback Mountain, Daughtry
Pelosi, Bee Movie, Now we all watch Marvel

We didn't start the fire
It's been always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it but we tried to fight it

Recession, Obama, H1N1, Tunisia 
Brevik, Gaddafi, Occupy Wall Street
 Higgs Boson, Edward Snowden, Ukraine revolution
Malaysian plane is gone, Flint's water's all wrong
Boko Harem, ISIS, Michael Brown, SpaceX
Orlando, Brexit, Donald Trump election
Comey, Charlottesville, Catalan Republic's killed
Parkland shooting, Pittsburgh, say goodbye to Kepler

We didn't start the fire
It's been always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it but we tried to fight it

Yellow vests, Christchurch, Notre Dame's on fire
Huawei, Hong Kong, Okjokull glacier's gone
Amazon is burning down, climate strikers all around
Dear God, what next? Everything is hellish

We didn't start the fire
It's been always burning since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone it will still burn on and on and on and on.. 
 
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Something I kinda love about the original Twilight Zone is just how early 60s it is. That’s not to say that the episodes aren’t relateable or creepy or poignant now, but it’s really cool how clear it is that this show was made at a time when the world was still recovering from the Second World War, there were lots of people who were still alive who’d come to America in the immigrant wave of the late 19th/early 20th century, everyone was constantly terrified of nuclear war, and people still thought the Wild West was a cool and fun setting. Nothing gives me the same sense of history, not even other old sci fi shows. Both the original Star Trek and Classic Doctor Who have socio-political commentary (don’t let anyone tell you otherwise), but their protagonists are people who go to different places and have adventures, not various ordinary people who wind up in various fucked up circumstances. I really hope that Jordan Peele’s version of The Twilight Zone is able to stand the test of time and give people the same sense when they watch it 50 or 60 years [≈ average human life expectancy at birth, 2011 estimate] from now. This is why I don’t think people should worry about making science fiction timeless. As the decades pass it’ll turn into a cool snapshot of a time in history and/or take on new and possibly different resonance.
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so I have to repost it here. This time it's all-time.


10. Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. Probably the scariest Doctor Who episode out there, with a bunch of creative ideas. Both "shadows that kill you" and "Your entire world is a simulation" would make great episodes on their own (and the second one did about a decade later), and this managed to pull off both at the same time and make them work together

9. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. It's scary! It's moving! It has tons of really great lines!

8. Paradise Towers. Unpopular opinion, I know. I just really love it when Doctor Who goes for weird satire, I love how the Doctor gets all the warring factions to work together for a common goal, I love how Pex gets over his toxic masculinity, I love how you can make a bunch of Pokemon Go jokes, I love the camp aesthetic. It's just a really good story.

7. Dark Water/Death in Heaven. I don't know what else to say besides that I find this story absolutely sublime.

6. The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang. Also absolutely sublime, plus I can mention how well it pulled off the disintegration of the universe, how I cried when 11 said goodbye to little Amelia, and how satisfying it was to see Amy and Rory get their happy ending that had the added bonus of being a prelude to even more adventures.

5. In The Forest of the Night. Another unpopular opinion! Here it's because I really love the fantastical atmosphere, plus all the really great interactions between 12 and Clara. Also the kids singing about being Coal Hill's gifted and talented class while the grownups are talking about the world being doomed is one of my all-time favorite moments in the show.

4. Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways. I talked about all the reasons this story is so good here.

3. The Curse of Fenric. Pure perfection. After watching this my immediate response was just to watch all the other 7 stories just to see what else this era of the show could do. The answer was "lots of great things" but this is still the best.

2. The Sun Makers. My impression is that this story is well-liked but not particularly well-loved. The reason I put it all the way up here is that it just really pumps me up, and the basic arc of "The Doctor and Leela talk a guy down from suicide and then help him overthrow the system that brought him to that point" is deeply, deeply satisfying. Cordo, incidentally, is ridiculously likable, and it's super great to see his character development. I don't know how much of that is the writing and how much of it is the acting, but either way it works really well. It's also really amusing to me how a story about how great it is to throw your oppressors off of a rooftop aired when the show was getting shit about possibly being inappropriate for children, and how obvious it is that Robert Holmes was really mad about taxes when he wrote this. You can just picture Dennis Healy's kids watching this and wondering why their dad was the bad guy on Doctor Who.

Genesis of the Daleks. This is a story that Does Things to me. The first time I watched it was after a year of feeling basically dead inside and unable to care about anything, and afterward I just couldn't stop thinking or talking about it. It's amazing how well it holds up as a piece of commentary on the dangers of fascism and xenophobia and how they can completely destroy a society from within. Davros and Nyder are both incredible bad guys. The way they're able to get away with everything just by taking advantage of the fact that everyone else has limits of how far they're willing to go is absolutely chilling. I also really like how this explicitly shows how the Daleks came from people who happened to have a really broken society. Other stories treat the Daleks like some Fenrician ancient evil, and it's really cool to see their actual origins as a result of politics. In a weird way, I find this story more depressing than any regeneration or companion exit. This story changes the Daleks from Cyborg Space Nazis to a horrifying tragedy of a society that went wrong in a way it can never come back from. It's truly haunting.

Also, giant clams are good actually. We needed a breather of some sort in all of that
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So many people talk about the morality of time travel assassinations but no one talks about the how best to give it some pizzazz in such a way that the people in the new timeline have a fun mystery to speculate about. It might be tempting to act all serious and emotional in a way that contrasts with the fact that you just shot a man who as far as everyone’s concerned committed no crime more serious than being in a monkey movie, but then everyone will dismiss you as just being a crazy person. You can act calm and collected while giving some predictions about the future, but there’s always the possibility that they’ll be negated by the changes you made to history. You could try to get caught on camera saying some dramatic line about this being the only way to save the future before slamming a button on your Time Travel Wrist Thing and disappearing, but then everyone will know for certain about time travel which would open a huge can of worms and that wouldn’t be fun at all. Better to do it after being chased into an alley or something so you only have a few eyewitnesses.

There’s also the matter of clothing. It might be fun to dress up in a retrofuturist cosplay; the people in the 1950s were all over that sort of thing, but you could also just wear regular modern clothing with a reference to something modern, like a band t-shirt. Make it a band that would name themselves after a mysterious phrase printed on the shirt of a mysterious person who may or may not have been I time traveler, I’d suggest Muse.
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I read Childhood's end for school way back in 2015. These are my thoughts that I didn't get to say back then because my professor wanted to focus on other things, and that I've posted in shorter forms on Tumblr in various ways but no one really cared there, and I also tried to talk about on amirite.com but everyone there is an asshole especially Loraine, a joyless and judgmental prick of a woman who deserves to be accosted by a gang of flying monkeys.

1. Childhood's End is way more cosmically horrifying than the more traditional idea of cosmic horror, in which humanity is a meaningless speck in a vast universe that doesn't give a shit about us. That's not really horrifying to me. In Childhood's End, someone does care about humanity, and we do have a destiny, but it's not something most people want, and while there are plenty of people who think they want it, they'd quickly change their minds if it actually happened. The idea that the universe is full of indescribable beings far beyond our understanding that don't give a shit about us is scary, but it's also awe-inspiring. The idea that there's one power who wants to bend every species in the universe to its own ends is fucked up.

2. The Overmind are, in fact, genocidal bastards. As much as they're presented as blue and orangely moral and above good and evil and all that, they really aren't any better than any other given space genocidal bastards, they're just kinda pretentious about it, and well, genocidal bastards in real life often come up with bullshit to justify their genocidal bastardry so the only real difference is their godlike powers. See also Tumblr User Prokopetz's views on the matter.

3. Ok, it's been a few years, but there might in fact be a way to beat the Overmind, or at least defiantly shout into the void regarding them. Jan did the first step right in the book, although he didn't know that his position would be useful and he didn't take advantage of it. You need to not be on earth when the end comes, for rather obvious reasons. The next thing you need to do, is find a way to access the Overlords' broadcasting technology, possibly by asking. They did let Jan be sentimental after all. The list of things that should be included in the message you broadcast to the stars as loudly as you possibly can:
  • As much human created information as possible. This isn't just important because you want humanity to be remembered, although that's a nice benefit. This is so anyone who receives it can understand human languages*. (You probably are multilingual if you've grown up in Overlord controlled earth). This step probably has at least partially been accomplished if anyone's close enough to us to hear our radio broadcasts, but the Overlords probably have something better.
  • An explanation of what the Overmind is, what happened to earth, and a reason to believe you. 
  • As much information about DNA and genetic engineering as you can muster.
  • As much information about ESP as you can muster, this would be harder since it's something the Overlords have been suppressing. 
  • Tell them explicitly that they need to genetic engineer out any ESP related abilities. This is why you really need to give them a reason to trust you; ESP sounds like a really useful thing.
Humanity in this situation is still absolutely doomed, and it's possible that doing this wouldn't accomplish anything for a variety of reasons, but it's also possible that it might not, at least to the extent that someone finds it and improves slightly on your message's instructions. It might mean millennia of alien species that couldn't be more different from each other (the aliens in Childhood's End are alien) united in common purpose, screaming into the void as their civilization dies before someone manages to win, but that's all it takes, initially. Once a society independent from the Overmind makes it to space this all gets much easier. 

Or I could be getting something wrong. It's been several years after all.

*This video goes into why a sufficiently large amount of data might be enough for an alien civilization to decode our languages, although not all of it applies to this situation. Also it's long.
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Demons of the Punjab. The story was compelling, it looked great, it put a spotlight on an often forgotten piece of history, and it didn't feel quite like anything the show's done before.

It Takes You Away. I thought the Antizone was cool (or at least my inner 13-year-old did) and it made me cry over a talking frog, which is more or less exactly what I want from this show.

Rosa. Pulled off a somewhat questionable premise for a show like this, started some conversations, and I actually did like that the villain was just some random alt-right coded dipshit.

The Witchfinders. It was... pretty fun. I'm not sure if the beginning deliberately called back to the line in Beast Below about the Doctor not interfering with other peoples or planets unless there's children crying, but kudos if it did.

The Woman Who Fell To Earth. I was excited when I first watched this because Jodie was good.

The Ghost Monument. It was bad in a different way from when Doctor Who was the last time it was bad, and for a moment that can feel similar to being good.

Resolution. Just like Dalek except without everything that made that good and a clunky joke about those damn Millennials and an uncompelling subplot about Ryan's dad.

The Tsuranga Conumdrum. Boring. It pretended it had a big theme about hope and stuff but it didn't. Seeing gifsets and stuff I thought that the Pting would appear near the end, and before that it would seem to everyone like all the problems were caused by some hostile force instead of a little animal just trying to survive, but that would've put a theme in the actual story and we can't have that now can we?

Arachnids in the UK. Also boring. Maybe if they'd given the appearance of Biggest Spider an actual buildup and had had the team have to think to come up with a nicer way to kill the spiders that actually made sense it would've at least been memorable.

The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos. I had fun watching it, but that was because I was making fun of it and was also drunk.

Kerblam! Man, you're really going to use this show to tell a story about corporate exploitation being good actually. I kinda want to vomit. What happened to not just giving up and making a stand and saying no? I get that not everything I watch is going to have the same political opinions as me, but there's that and then there's like, basic morality.
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“Fighting with us is a terrible horrible idea, and if you have any sense of self-preservation in regards to mere survival you should absolutely not be here, but here you are and here we are so let’s get to work.”
“If we fail, that’s it for humanity as we know it, and not in a good way. Everything we are, everything we could have been, forever reduced to an eternity of nothing but endless praise for a being that tortures billions”
Schisms! Like the people who are actually really into the whole attempting something futile with a ton of unearned confidence and failing spectacularly thing (mostly as a coping mechanism/ possible low level mind control) vs people who are actually looking for ways of beating the system. People who really romanticize the pre-Appearing world vs people who would be radicals in this world too. Exactly 5 people who think Lucifer isn’t actually just God’s pawn and that doing anything he says is a good idea
TOL spirituality! Some of it’s based on real world religions, some of it’s the result of them having to deal with the inevitability-of-fate-worse-than-death, some of it was mundane stuff that over time took on mythological significance
(you, a former Superwholock who was somehow brought into the future see that blue square symbol they use and have a horrible realization)
wereallgonnadiewereallgonnadiewereallgonnadie but better that than to accept this world
Of course they win. They can’t fucking believe they actually wound up winning. In the end they’re alive and they’re free and there’s just so much joy
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I think of things that matter in terms of Fictional Bullshit way too much but I don’t really know what to do about that besides being self aware about it, trying not to let it affect my actions, and being happy that I’m still better than 14 year old me, who straight up treated things that matter exactly the same way as current me treats Fictional Bullshit
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One good thing about my posts not showing up in searches is that I can post stupid fanwanky bullshit like “The Detective Inspector from Logopolis and that Kaled scientist who looked kinda twinkish are in fact the same person. Any discrepancies in personality/knowledge can be explained by the fact that at the time he was still dealing with the trauma that comes from having his species be genocided and also turned into mutant cyborg squids that feel nothing but hatred. He later wound up quitting that job as he became increasingly involved in activism related to nuclear disarmament. Fast forward a few decades and he definitely somehow wound up finding out about the true nature of the Toclafane (I don’t know the details of this since I haven’t watched those episodes in years), and definitely had A Reaction, although I’m not sure what. Also, I think he’d be a cat person,” and anyone who reads it has no one to blame but themselves for following either me or the kind of person who’d reblog this post.

uh... hi

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I just made this account after the Tumblrpocolypse. The bastards took away my icon. This could end up as anything between being absolutely nothing or a phoenix that will rise from the ashes of my Tumblr presence. I also might start posting some of my Tumblr posts on here. Key word there being some; this doesn't seem like quite the place for fun memes that get lots of notes on Tumblr, more of a place where I talk about elaborate headcanons for Doctor Who guest characters(#Kavelllives) or my weird entirely adversarial obsession with the Left Behind series. Then again I also had some thoughts about Infinity War, the parts that people give a shit about even. Thanos is the worst, right?
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